'Hunt sabateurs recruit new army..' - 1st deletion

[Joe K]

This poster seems to have incurred the wrath of TiG, so his/her comment has been removed (albeit noumenal is a bit of a spammer). Probably not the first deletion, I'll warrant...

If readers see other comments, and notice them also disappearing, while still open in another window, can they post them here as well? No need to register, and unlikely that my standards are going to be as strict as TiG and their anonymous plaintiffs



by noumenal

Wednesday, September 26 2012, 12:50PM

“Flashman's LibDem poodle (with all due respect to poodles) has no respect for wildlife whatsoever, and will doubtless toe the line when Flashman tries to overturn the Hunting Act.

80% of TB transmission is caused by the farmers themselves, moving their 'stock' around the country. This will continue. The farmers caused this disease initially by their maltreatment of cattle. The following are some of the crimes – legal or otherwise – committed by this vile industry:

Removing calves at birth from their mothers.

Sending bull calves at 9 to11 weeks of age across land and sea in all weathers as part of the live export industry on journeys lasting 60 hours or more.

Mechanically impregnating cows on an annual basis, leaving them no time to recover.

Genetically selecting certain breeds such as the commonly used Holstein cow, to maximise milk production at the expense of the animals' welfare. Many of
these animals have udders dragging on the ground, and most of them suffer from mastitis.

Pumping them with drugs and antibiotics to counter the inevitable diseases that result. The dispensary attached to most dairy farms is the size of your average chemist's shop

Preparing animals for agricultural shows by pumping gas into their deflated udders and sealing them with super glue..

Swapping name tags from sick valuable animals to healthy less valuable ones

Deliberately infecting their herds with TB in order to gain compensation.

Does any civilized person which to be associated with this industry, especially in a society where there is an abundance of healthy alternatives to both meat and milk?”

www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Hunt-sabateurs-recruit-new-army-halt/story-16989533-detail/story.html#comments

[Joe K]

I see Eddie is saying on the Gloucestershire boards that GABS' site has been blocked... www.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/boards/topic/11185-first-badger-cull-licence-issued/#entry61081

He has a bit of a penchant for making judgement about people based on them being sanctioned by equally (or, if that's possible, more) intolerant people, doesn't he? I don't know what filtering paramenters BullGuard operates under, but I don't find the GABS site to be blocked by my browsers...

[Joe K]

2nd deletion? I may have missed something...

by fischadler

Thursday, September 27 2012, 9:15PM

“@ysedra : That is nonsense. I would not invite 2ladybugs or charlespk to vote as they are extremists and I would be shooting myself in the foot as some of those so called marksmen will probably do. Even on the thisis gloucestershire poll at the moment it is running at 75% against the cull. Although that is a rubbish poll which can be easily manipulated either way so I would not give it much credence.
Badger killers need to wake up and smell the coffee.”


I'm guessing it was the last line that got the comment scotched...

Edit: or maybe dissing the thisis poll?

[Joe K]

And another one for noumenal...

by noumenal
Friday, September 28 2012, 9:59AM
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“We simply dare not stop drinking cows' milk.
We really don't want to have to choose healthier, more ecologically-friendly, cruelty-free alternatives.
We really must insist on the use of rape-racks to impregnate cows, so we can steal the milk meant for their calf.
We really must separate distressed calves from their distressed mothers and shoot dead, each year, more than 100,000 of them immediately after birth, simply for being male and therefore 'surplus' to the dairy industry's requirements.. (Far better instead, particularly for those who crave the taste of young flesh, to cut the throats of the remaining male calves six months down the line, after shipping them off to a dark, miserable, malnourished existence confined in a continental veal crate.)
We really must insist that vast quantities of the planet's grain harvest is diverted to the meat and dairy industries, so they can accomplish all of the above AND pump more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than all of the world's transport systems combined.
We would much rather pass the same grain through a cow's digestive system than have it directly reach the bellies of the children wasting away in regions of the world struggling to feed themselves.
We really mustn't blame the 'poor' farmers for spreading TB through their herds as a result of over-intensive production methods which compromise the immune systems of the cows - sorry - milk-machines, in their charge; nor, given the choice, would we wish to prevent the moment from happening when, aged five rather than 25 and broken down as a result of repeated pregnancies, those same dairy cows, with or without TB, are thanklessly carted off to the slaughterhouse to be rendered into low-grade meat products.
No, we absolutely mustn't point the finger of blame at the intrinsic failings of the meat and dairy industry itself, for TB down on the factory farm, when it happens to be far more convenient, politically and economically, to misdirect the blame towards badgers, and cull - sorry - massacre them - a protected species - in their tens of thousands, instead.
We most certainly wouldn't, couldn't blame our own mothers and fathers, who didn't know how to wean us properly; nor inform the squeamish that a typical pint of milk contains millions of residual blood and puss cells (as permitted by EU regulations), because mastitis in over-exploited cows is now endemic in herds across Europe; nor scare people with talk about all the naturally-occurring hormones in milk meant to turn small calves into fully-grown cows as quickly as possible, which play havoc over time with the human digestive and endocrine systems and have been implicated in a range of chronic and degenerative diseases, including breast and prostate cancer; and while we're at it, best to avoid mentioning the cocktail of antibiotics and other chemicals in every drop, but blithely carry on drinking the 'white stuff' like naive little children because 'that's what our mummies and daddies always told us to do'.
Excuse me while I go pour myself a glass of something else instead – oat milk, soya milk, rice milk, almond milk, hazelnut milk anyone?”