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Post by Joe K on Apr 3, 2015 0:20:17 GMT
Aww why is Kay Powell a deleted member? Presumably, it's because Kay deleted her account. Every cloud has a silver lining, I guess. |
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Post by Joe K on Apr 12, 2015 14:43:45 GMT
If Joe gets elected. That's a good one. It's more likely that my terrier will become a cat-loving vegetarian.  It was never about winning, Kay. Getting (significantly) more votes than the last candidate would have been enough. Actually getting any official support for the local issues I've highlighted, or even just acknowledgement of them, would have been something, too. I've held out in the hope of getting either, from anyone but David Harber, but since Saturday, it's become a moot point, so I guess the anonymous 'Bartonite' is just going to have to be allowed to crow that I didn't end up standing, without ever having to prove that I tried to before. And I gave you moderator status so you could see how it works, but didn't feel much like emailing anyone on Sat night about the details, and Daughter no 2 monopolised the computer all Sunday (which I didn't really mind, because damn, the internet can be addictive). Thought you might like to join the Gloucestershire Politics board and have the same status. There's a lot of bullshit to expose in the run-up to the elections, and though I never thought I'd say it, I realised weeks ago that Russell Brand was right, that when you start the candidate process, even as an independent, you start compromising to get votes, even nomination signatures. It doesn't work. Only direct action works. I've got one objective in the elections, and that's that Richard Graham doesn't get a second term (to go, doubtless, with his second job, which probably dwarfs his MP's pension), which probably means voting Labour, and holding my nose with individuals like Kate Haigh, Ahmed Hansdot and Usman Bhaimia being in the party. Just in passing, while I always harbour doubts about people I don't know personally (though I kind of wish people who knew me personally could be a little more trusting), I may have rushed to judgement with Lovinnickelback, attributing some tweets to trolling tendencies, rather than real bouts of mental distress (soz, there's no gentler way to put that, at least at this time of night). Definitely coming across as more lucid, informed and genuine than 'Gary', anyway (though yes, that's not a high bar). This is still the site people take as they find, and always will be, unless anyone with mod powers think it should be otherwise. As I said I've known easy-going people getting such powers, and suddenly thinking they have to be the thought police. I'd like to think anyone getting such status here would look at a post that annoyed them and, finger hovering over the 'delete', or even just 'Move to' button, temember what this board is for and think 'Actually, let it stand'. For real judgement calls, the Politics board awaits... Now for sleep, and I might be busy with the family on Monday, too. I'll see incoming emails via the Fire phone. I guess people who like to pretend they haven't read the above (not Eddie, he's actually bone-headed enough to say he's not reading, and mean it), have to keep up the pretence, and act like my not being in the nominations is a surprise. It's still amazing to me that my presence or otherwise is a bigger deal than the behaviour of the Labour candidate (who is still in the nominations). The local Labour parfty may have just handed the seat back to Saj Patel, who is as useless as the two Labour cllrs. Though I suppose it depends on one's definition of 'useless'. They're all probably quite useful to the small group of powerbrokers in the area who deliver just enough votes to guarantee a win... Gloucester City council Labour candidate suspended |
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Post by MikeMorris on Apr 12, 2015 19:44:36 GMT
It was never about winning, Kay. Getting (significantly) more votes than the last candidate would have been enough. Actually getting any official support for the local issues I've highlighted, or even just acknowledgement of them, would have been something, too. I've held out in the hope of getting either, from anyone but David Harber, but since Saturday, it's become a moot point, so I guess the anonymous 'Bartonite' is just going to have to be allowed to crow that I didn't end up standing, without ever having to prove that I tried to before. And I gave you moderator status so you could see how it works, but didn't feel much like emailing anyone on Sat night about the details, and Daughter no 2 monopolised the computer all Sunday (which I didn't really mind, because damn, the internet can be addictive). Thought you might like to join the Gloucestershire Politics board and have the same status. There's a lot of bullshit to expose in the run-up to the elections, and though I never thought I'd say it, I realised weeks ago that Russell Brand was right, that when you start the candidate process, even as an independent, you start compromising to get votes, even nomination signatures. It doesn't work. Only direct action works. I've got one objective in the elections, and that's that Richard Graham doesn't get a second term (to go, doubtless, with his second job, which probably dwarfs his MP's pension), which probably means voting Labour, and holding my nose with individuals like Kate Haigh, Ahmed Hansdot and Usman Bhaimia being in the party. Just in passing, while I always harbour doubts about people I don't know personally (though I kind of wish people who knew me personally could be a little more trusting), I may have rushed to judgement with Lovinnickelback, attributing some tweets to trolling tendencies, rather than real bouts of mental distress (soz, there's no gentler way to put that, at least at this time of night). Definitely coming across as more lucid, informed and genuine than 'Gary', anyway (though yes, that's not a high bar). This is still the site people take as they find, and always will be, unless anyone with mod powers think it should be otherwise. As I said I've known easy-going people getting such powers, and suddenly thinking they have to be the thought police. I'd like to think anyone getting such status here would look at a post that annoyed them and, finger hovering over the 'delete', or even just 'Move to' button, temember what this board is for and think 'Actually, let it stand'. For real judgement calls, the Politics board awaits... Now for sleep, and I might be busy with the family on Monday, too. I'll see incoming emails via the Fire phone. I guess people who like to pretend they haven't read the above (not Eddie, he's actually bone-headed enough to say he's not reading, and mean it), have to keep up the pretence, and act like my not being in the nominations is a surprise. It's still amazing to me that my presence or otherwise is a bigger deal than the behaviour of the Labour candidate (who is still in the nominations). The local Labour parfty may have just handed the seat back to Saj Patel, who is as useless as the two Labour cllrs. Though I suppose it depends on one's definition of 'useless'. They're all probably quite useful to the small group of powerbrokers in the area who deliver just enough votes to guarantee a win... Gloucester City council Labour candidate suspended |
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Post by Po Po on Apr 18, 2015 15:38:18 GMT
And... I'm back using my account  |
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Post by Po Po on Apr 18, 2015 15:57:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 16:36:40 GMT
AnonVengeance tweets the parody, Nickleback tweets the parody, Kate Gilson tweets the parody. Kate Gilson, Nickleback, Katie Carlisle followed the parody. Katie tweeted the same phrase that was in Nickleback's dox. Not my 'dox', not my problem |
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Post by Po Po on Apr 18, 2015 21:40:05 GMT
AnonVengeance tweets the parody, Nickleback tweets the parody, Kate Gilson tweets the parody. Kate Gilson, Nickleback, Katie Carlisle followed the parody. Katie tweeted the same phrase that was in Nickleback's dox. Not my 'dox', not my problem Yes it is. It's your dox, you tweeted it, and you're in it. Write to the CPS and ask. Call the police or wateva |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 21:58:50 GMT
Not my 'dox', I didn't create it. And therefore, anyone with a sliver of understanding of real life would also see that it's not my problem, just like I said. Not my problem.
What the fuck is the CPS, and why the hell are you so obsessed with the police? I'm not going to call them, I'm not going to sue you, I'm not going to lodge any kind of official complaint against you, I don't need to. Maybe you should just go away, cos I'm not a problem to you, you won't find me and I'm not going to do something stupid that will allow you to find me, which means you're not a problem in my real life and therefore I'm no problem to you, you're merely a nuisance from twitter who is prolonging a pointless chase of me and other innocent non-anonymous individuals.
But, what I will NOT allow, is you telling vulnerable people to kill themselves, or that you are going to 'see them in court' for non-existent reasons, or that you're going to murder, assassinate or beat up people. THAT I will stop. End of discussion. Its over. Gary, I've been surprisingly tolerant of your unfounded accusations towards me, although I have protected others, my patience with you is wearing thin.
It is not my 'dox' as it belongs to 'hausofpain', who, in fact, referred to me in the very document you're talking about as NON-ANONYMOUS. Therefore, you have no real basis to place anything on, so just drop it. So long as you don't go causing any more trouble on twitter like you used to, and so long as you don't spam my twitter with mentions, I don't have a problem with you. End. Of. Discussion.
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Post by Po Po on Apr 19, 2015 1:40:07 GMT
Not my 'dox', I didn't create it. And therefore, anyone with a sliver of understanding of real life would also see that it's not my problem, just like I said. Not my problem. What the fuck is the CPS, and why the hell are you so obsessed with the police? I'm not going to call them, I'm not going to sue you, I'm not going to lodge any kind of official complaint against you, I don't need to. Maybe you should just go away, cos I'm not a problem to you, you won't find me and I'm not going to do something stupid that will allow you to find me, which means you're not a problem in my real life and therefore I'm no problem to you, you're merely a nuisance from twitter who is prolonging a pointless chase of me and other innocent non-anonymous individuals. But, what I will NOT allow, is you telling vulnerable people to kill themselves, or that you are going to 'see them in court' for non-existent reasons, or that you're going to murder, assassinate or beat up people. THAT I will stop. End of discussion. Its over. Gary, I've been surprisingly tolerant of your unfounded accusations towards me, although I have protected others, my patience with you is wearing thin. It is not my 'dox' as it belongs to 'hausofpain', who, in fact, referred to me in the very document you're talking about as NON-ANONYMOUS. Therefore, you have no real basis to place anything on, so just drop it. So long as you don't go causing any more trouble on twitter like you used to, and so long as you don't spam my twitter with mentions, I don't have a problem with you. End. Of. Discussion.You tweeted the dox. It's your problem, troll. "It is not my 'dox' as it belongs to 'hausofpain', who, in fact, referred to me in the very document you're talking about as NON-ANONYMOUS." So you did read the dox then? You do know my address? You did read this: weekwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/29/a-brief-comment-on-peter-nunn/Yeah? The CPS is the Crown Prosecution Service. "Your email has been passed to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) by Office of the Independent Assessor of Complaints (IAC). " www.cps.gov.uk/publications/prosecution/ctd.html You muppet. You can't stop me doing anything, can you? I don't need your permission, do I? What you gonna do? Write a strong letter to your MP? If I had done the things you say wouldn't the police have been around??? |
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Post by Joe K on Apr 19, 2015 8:27:17 GMT
AnonVengeance tweets the parody, Nickleback tweets the parody, Kate Gilson tweets the parody. Kate Gilson, Nickleback, Katie Carlisle followed the parody. Was it the parody that told me to visit him, so he could bash my head in, 'legally'? You do know that you can report people for impersonation on Twitter? |
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Post by Po Po on Apr 20, 2015 3:46:37 GMT
AnonVengeance tweets the parody, Nickleback tweets the parody, Kate Gilson tweets the parody. Kate Gilson, Nickleback, Katie Carlisle followed the parody. Was it the parody that told me to visit him, so he could bash my head in, 'legally'? You do know that you can report people for impersonation on Twitter? Did you tweet hausofpain? sad little person who has been harassing me and joining in an Anonymous operation to dox me, intimidate me, and heckle me endlessly |
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Post by Po Po on Apr 20, 2015 21:23:07 GMT
AnonVengeance tweets the parody, Nickleback tweets the parody, Kate Gilson tweets the parody. Kate Gilson, Nickleback, Katie Carlisle followed the parody. Was it the parody that told me to visit him, so he could bash my head in, 'legally'? You do know that you can report people for impersonation on Twitter? Did you tweet hausofpain? Have you contacted the police? |
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Post by Po Po on Apr 30, 2015 11:49:07 GMT
AnonVengeance tweets the parody, Nickleback tweets the parody, Kate Gilson tweets the parody. Kate Gilson, Nickleback, Katie Carlisle followed the parody. Was it the parody that told me to visit him, so he could bash my head in, 'legally'? You do know that you can report people for impersonation on Twitter? Do you know I can report you for ignorance? |
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Post by Po Po on Apr 30, 2015 11:57:53 GMT
Assclown, how dare you include me as a homophobe. I have not and never will be one, honestly you've stalked my tweets thoroughly enough to know that I never have been homophobic and in fact I stand up for LGBTQ+ rights whenever I can, as well as supporting LGBTQ+ individuals, and do not approve of, in fact I deplore homophobic individuals. You are so deluded from the truth if you think I am in any way homophobic (or racist, or 'neo nazi'). Honestly, Gary, 'yer a knob'; coincidently it's nob not knob. Calling Joe a door handle while mildly amusing isn't insulting Common purpose - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_purpose The doctrine of common purpose, common design, joint enterprise, or joint criminal enterprise is a common law legal doctrine that imputes criminal liability to the www.cps.gov.uk/legal/assets/uploads/files/Joint_Enterprise.pdf7. A secondary party is one who assists or encourages (sometimes referred to as “aids, abets, counsels or procures”) P to commit the substantive offence, without being a principal offender. However, a secondary party can be prosecuted and punished as if he were a principal offender: s8 Accessories and Abettors Act 1861. What is Joint Enterprise? Criminal law generally only holds offenders liable for their own actions but, under the doctrine of joint enterprise, a person may be found guilty for another person's crime. Simple association or accidental presence during a crime is insufficient for a charge under joint enterprise. A suspect must knowingly assist or encourage the crime and agree to act together with the primary offender for a common purpose. For example, the driver of a getaway vehicle can be charged with robbery under joint enterprise even if an accomplice actually perpetrated the crime. Where Joint Enterprise Is Not Applicable If one group member deviates from a plan, then joint enterprise may not be applicable because the assistance must be with knowledge. For instance, if a group agrees to vandalize property but one group member assaults and batters a passer-by without knowledge or assent of other members, the doctrine of joint enterprise is unlikely to be applicable. The question remains whether a particular outcome was reasonably foreseeable or within the scope of a crime. If so, then a prosecutor may nevertheless properly proceed with a joint enterprise charge. Joint Enterprise Complexity and Controversy The doctrine of joint enterprise is controversial because a person can be held criminally liable for another's actions. Younger people have been disproportionately affected by the application of joint enterprise in recent years due to an increase in violent crimes committed by groups of youths. Furthermore, whether suspects were engaged in a joint enterprise is more complex in specific intent crimes such as murder. In such cases, a jury might only hold the group liable up to the point of the crime requiring specific intent. Prosecuting Charges of Joint Enterprise Prosecutors consider a number of factors when deciding whether to pursue a joint enterprise charge including maturity or age, proportionality of the actual offense to possible sentence, harm to the victim, and premeditation. The prosecution must also be in the public interest. Given the seriousness of being charged with a crime for which a suspect did not physically perpetrate, a prosecutor may elect to charge the suspect with a lesser crime rather than pursue a charge under joint enterprise if the conditions are not sufficiently persuasive. Additionally, no action for joint enterprise murder is sustainable unless the prosecution also secures a guilty verdict for the primary offender. Defending Charges of Joint Enterprise When defending a charge of joint enterprise, it is best to appoint an expert barrister who has been certified to handle serious cases or Queen's Counsel with demonstrated experience defending against a change based on joint enterprise, due to the complexity of the doctrine. Established case law indicates the parameters of the doctrine of joint enterprise but the specific facts of each case are crucial to the defense of such a charge. |
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Post by Joe K on May 1, 2015 11:28:23 GMT
Was it the parody that told me to visit him, so he could bash my head in, 'legally'? You do know that you can report people for impersonation on Twitter? Do you know I can report you for ignorance? Believe me, if that was a possibility, there's a whole bunch of people I'd be reporting... |
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